If you want to go down that route esspresso and a milk steamer is your friend. Always remember that the best coffee is the coffee you like, and that counts for everything really. The above methods are sometimes used with hot milk instead of water. That recipe you described is otherwise a Cafe au Lait. There is a but coming though, and that is to say 'but' not with dairy milk. I was thinking of using either a french press or my vacuum brewer (Bodom Santos). I let it steep for 4 minutes, and plunged normally. This will take some effort and patience, but go slowly; liquid may gush out if you plunge too hard or fast. Try adding a hint of ground nutmeg for extra spice. Cocoa powder is traditionally used in all of Italy. There are a few videos from „Seattle Coffee Gear“. The flavour is always good, the only issue is that - like with French press - you will get a little micro grind in the drink and some people don't like this. Now HERE is what would be interesting- make cold press ice coffee- the kind where using water the water is never heated. This sounds absolutely horrible. Why not? GenerallyOdd krisprince. This was what led me to experiment trying to brew specialty coffee just with oat milk, literally by putting ground coffee and oat milk in a microwaveable container, microwaving for 2-3 minutes, and then straining through a fine metal mesh. That would probably be the only way this wouldn't end up horrible as I really don't think pouring boiled milk over your grounds would create the best result. Ingredients. Brewing coffee with milk instead of water - posted in Public House: I have been looking around but I am not finding too much info on this. It should also be noted that grind size does matter: a Moka pot, for example, requires a fine grind, while a French press uses a coarser grind. Some person even posted about their dream of James having an affair with their boss (I want to bleach my eyes). If you're thinking of trying this, don't. The quality of coffee you brew will significantly increase with a few additional tools. Maybe start with supermarket beans for your first trials so not to waste great coffee before checking something works first, but don't listen to those who say that trying out a method that hasn't been featured in a dozen YouTube videos with a low saturated colour filter and a slow tempo jazz soundtrack isn't a proper coffee lover's technique. The problem with milk is that it will curdle at 180°F. In my opinion - and it's controversial on the internet - oat milk is the milk that pairs well with specialty coffee as (providing it hasn't been flavoured) it's lack of a distinct flavour means you don't mess with the flavour profile of the coffee. As an experiment, instead of using water, I heated milk to a boil, then put it in the french press with the normal amount of coffee grinds. In a cup, half french press coffee, half cold brew + sugar. The plastic look is cheaper than the stainless-steel look, but on closer inspection, you’ll find the BPA-free plastic to actually be of a great quality like the Bodum travel French press. So, just try it and see for yourself. The question is why? The most important thing to remember is not to heat up the milk hotter than 70°C / 160°F, otherwise it‘ll break and taste burnt. Keep on a low simmer until the tea has steeped in the French press for five minutes. What I have found is that those who have tried it are using automatic drip coffee makers, and complain that the milk burns. You could french press coffee using pepsi if you wanted. (say, using half as much water as you normally would for twice as long), Overextracted coffee is gross and bitter. Enlarge Image We test French press coffee makers the same way we test standard drip machines. Give the French Press a quick swirl, and then wait 30 seconds. To properly extract coffee in a French press, you need water just off the boil (i.e. Try doing French press with 140-160F water, and let us know how nasty it tastes. The grounds are placed in the cylinder, and off-the-boil water is then poured into it. 8. The minimum ingredients to make French Press coffee are hot water, ground coffee and a French Press. Few people have full-blown espresso machines at home, and most of us don't keep a steam wand around, either. I love specialty light roast but you can definitely brew it with milk. You need a steam wand of some description to make the one on the right. Set your timer for four minutes and pour in just enough water to saturate the grounds. If it doesn‘t work well, you could try a different way: brew a stronger french press with only half the amount of water, then top the coffee up with milk in the cup. Which I think the answer is no. This doesn't allow you to get everything out of the coffee that you might like to. Frothy Matcha Latte (Made in a French Press) 1 1/2 teaspoons of matcha powder (I used Mizuba Tea Co.) 1 tablespoon of hot water 1 cup of whole milk (or milk alternative) Add a little sugar and make sure you don't boil the milk.. We, as a whole agree, this a horrible idea. This is the James Hoffmann subreddit, where people go so as not to think for themselves. The french press is a full immersion brewing device with a metal mesh filter. Blend on high for one to two minutes. Press J to jump to the feed. Other than that, the grind size and technique are the same. For French press brewing, that's 4 ounces of ground coffee to 32 ounces of water. The other option is to decant to a french press use Hoffman's double spoon method to pick off any of the floaters you can't get to sink. Using milk instead of water, helps with the strongness and makes taste even better! Fat breaks down the hydrophobic elements of the coffee far quicker, so if you were to leave our milk-brewed coffee to steep for the full 24 hours, you’d end up with something unbearably bitter. Coffee tastes the best this way, Yes but thats a mildly unpleasant, but not terrible decision. Milk tastes horrible at high temperature. I mean, I'm not going to rush to do it but I am legit curious. 'Discussion forum for members of the community, regarding videos or other things created by James'. BUT! I let it steep for 4 minutes, and plunged normally. In either case, so say we all. Two French inventors (Mayer and Delforge) patented in 1852 a forerunner of the French press. Not a fan of the microwaved stuff. Drain and rinse, then add to high speed blender with 3 cups water, sea salt and sweetener. Go check out r/coffee my dude. Instead, pile shredded veg into the canister of your French press, press down firmly, and tip so that the excess liquid drains out of the press' spout. If you like your coffee with milk, fill a clean French press about one-third of the way with warm milk. What if you bloomed the coffee as normal then swapped the water for milk (at around 60-65 degrees). Over the years, the French press has undergone several design modifications. The latter two are how I like to enjoy cold brew. And in fact, people have had that idea of brewing with milk and tried it. Welp, I guess I'm free next Thursday now. Goodness. Yes you can but you need to use a percolator or french press otherwise you will have cooked milk in the tubing of a drip pot and that would be a disaster. Because that's about as hot as you could get the milk before scalding it. As people have pointed out, dairy milk will break down above 70C (160F) and if you want a decent extraction with coffee you want to be hitting at least around 85C (185F) if not higher. The French Press is widely used because you do not need fancy equipment like a long neck kettle, a supply of paper filters or any electricity to brew with it. Step 4 Separate the Milk with a French Press Pour your milk into a French press, then let it sit for about 3-5 minutes to settle. Now that grated veg is good as gold. French press is very forgiving, so you can use 1:12 for a very strong brew and even go down to 1:15 or 1:17 for a lighter brew. The French press is an immersion method of brewing, which means that the beans extract for longer than in other methods. It certainly is unusual and I wouldn’t do it myself, but OP isn‘t an expert and probably isn‘t looking for that perfect specialty coffee with notes of blueberries and blood orange. ...As a side note: I have heard of people putting warm milk (not boiling) in a clean french press (no coffee) and pumping the plunger up and down to create frothed milk for lattes etc... http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide_files/foam.jpg, On the left is soapy gross bubbles that taste like nothing. The first coffee press, which may have been made in France, was the modern coffee press in its rudimentary form—a metal or cheesecloth screen fitted to a rod that users would press into a pot of hot water and coffee grounds. Users can vary the amount of time that coffee grounds are steeped, the type and size of grounds used, the temperature of the water… Not sure if you mean r/coffee or the cows you represent. The coffee oils contain a lot of the bitter notes, so it can be easy to over … Place the coffee pot on the stove and heat until the water boils up into the top chamber and it fills up. 2 1/2 cups whole milk or water; 8 2/3 cups all-purpose flour, plus flour for the work surface; 1 1/2 tablespoons active dry yeast; 1/2 cup honey or sugar Cinnamon, star anise, and vanilla beans are a great … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Edit: as a tip for OP, the r/Coffee subreddit might have been a better place for that question, since here most people are into specialty coffee only. I mean, yes, but it’s just going to taste like milky coffee and frankly, it’s a bit of a waste because you’re going to get the cooked milk taste (like in the espresso affagato video) when you heat the milk hot enough to brew coffee. What to Expect from a French Press. Never mind steeping coffee in nasty tasting milk. Then remove the plunger component of the press and pour a bit of this water into your press and swirl it around to: Warm up the glass so the water temperature doesn’t drop when you start making espresso The resulting milk-coffee creation was horrible. Use room temperature or cold water instead of hot water, and extend the brew time from four minutes to 12 to 18 hours. It will add a lighter texture. Chocolate shavings add a gourmet touch. Milk has fat in it which pulls out the hydrophobic compounds of the coffee(the oils) a lot more quickly than water does. Because of this, we usually use a coarser grind to slow extraction and avoid over-extraction. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In the video above, the 1:12 ratio yields a very strong wake-up call brew, and 1:15 yields a pleasant brew that you will enjoy sipping. In this version, you would put a WHOLE BUNCH of coffee grounds in COLD COLD milk, leave it in the fridge overnight, then filter out the coffee grounds. Here‘s one doing a pour over with milk at 140°F / 60°C: https://youtu.be/zKSNqaIlDL4. Don't let other people speculate as to what you will find tasty, because they aren't you, and experimenting is fun and often leads to unexpected surprises. For most methods you are aiming for a temperature of around 200°F for a good extraction. If you know you won’t get to the coffee for more like 24 hours, it’s okay: Allow the cold brew to steep in the refrigerator to slow down the brewing process. Because you‘re using lower temperatures, I‘d probably go for a 5 minute brew instead of 4 minutes, but if it‘s a dark roasted coffee it should extract decently enough either way. Your friends who recommended this probably have poor taste in coffee. Just add more warm milk later. Try different milks and different methods, not just french press - though, admittedly, I think french press would offer the best result here. Helpful 5 Not Helpful 2. If it doesn‘t work well, you could try a different way: brew a stronger french press with only half the amount of water, then top the coffee up with milk in the cup. It makes just one mug of coffee. In a pour over, a finer grind can impede water flow. People seem to be a bit harsh here. Edit: as a tip for OP, the r/Coffee subreddit might have been a better place for that question, since here most people are into specialty coffee only. But most importantly, don't be afraid to experiment with new ideas for brewing coffee. Anyways i just want to make sure if it would work or not because i am not a coffee expert. Remove the lid of the French press and pour the coconut milk over the tea. Pour into French Press, cover and depress plunger verrry slowly. I know I'm being a dick but the last few days have been hilarious. As an experiment, instead of using water, I heated milk to a boil, then put it in the french press with the normal amount of coffee grinds. On the right is microfoam that tastes sweet and creamy. The bloom would extract most of the coffee, probably better with a darker roast. Plunging milk in a bodum gives you at beast the gross soapy mess on the left. Here‘s another one from them using the French Press: https://youtu.be/WG_sJRSH2t4. THAT SAID, please feel free to experiment with it. Blend the water and almonds together until the almonds are well-processed, about 1½ minutes. /r/ Coffee is a place to discuss any and all things coffee. It sounds like what you're really wanting is a higher milk to coffee ratio, and that's something you can do better with espresso or mokapot.... Make yourself a super strong coffee that can have lots of milk added. Then heat 2-3x that volume of milk to ~160°F and mix the two. That's simply not hot enough to extract the flavors of your coffee... And the drink will pretty much be cold by the time you get to drink it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 3 replies 0. Milk works differently to water in this brewing process because it contains fat. Double up on the coffee sure but don't steep it twice as long, that just pulls all the nasty bitterness out of the beans. Milk irreversibly changes when it gets to about 70C or above, and starts to taste very bad. It is just coffee, after all, and I have heard of much, much stranger things in the coffee world being sold for real money. Cover again and let steep for 4-5 minutes. I am definitely someone who considers myself at the coffee purist of the spectrum, and definitely prefer to not pollute or distract my 'pure' coffee with extras like sugar or syrups and will 90+% of the time have it without milk. Just asking if it would work or not becuz im not a coffee expert. I've made it this way before. Nope you wont want to do that. 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